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ZitatAlles anzeigen1.) Allgemein
Zur Inquisition gibt es auch ein Update. Alle 3 Listen der Inquisition (Dämonen-, Hexen- und Alienjäger) werden zusammen gefasst in einen Codex Inquisition. Die Miniaturen werden komplett überholt – im laufe der Zeit (verteilt auf mehrere Waves).Hier liegt der Fokus auf den Grey Knights für das erste Release, die Adeptus Sororitas folgen in einer 2. Wave. Keine Alliierten, aber verschiedene Auswahlen aus anderen Armeen des Imperiums. Es wird keine Glaubenspunkte mehr geben, dafür aber häufig Verletzungen ignorieren und “Psychic Nullification”. Imperiale Assassinen sind nun eine einzelne Einheit, die verschiedenen Tempel sind vom Tisch. Viele tödliche Ausrüstungsoptionen und sehr teuer.
2.) BCMs
I got to see the DH/WH character designs yesterday, there are about a dozen named inquisition, incl existing.
one looks like a gk chaplain.
a sister w what looks like twin arm mounted SBs.
a named preacher.
new concept for throne of judgement less like a converted dread.
sister w twin cat o nine tails.
confessor w a big staff w what looks like integrated flamer
named seraphin w new jump pack, more marine like (large jets) but retains some archaic details, also has sword and combi weapon
another gk named justicar, w 2 ended force weapon.
a gk vehicle based character.
ZitatSometimes we get so much mail it just HAS to get out. Word on the street
is the Witch-hunters and Daemonhunters codices are being pulled for good...
They are no longer available on the Games Workshop UK online store, with reports of no
reprints planned. Some of the key boxed sets such as the Sister of Battle squad are also gone.
ZitatAlles anzeigenI got a few nice bits of info/rumours and various 'inquisition' codex's
Witch hunters and Daemon hunters are going to be combined to form an 'Inquisition' Codex and they are going to have 'Xeno hunters' added to it. Grey knights may get there own codex.
The new battle sisters have their molds ready and apparently has been ready for the last 3 years.
and should all be happening around June/July time.
now I'm going to speculate a lot now as to what I think might be in the new inquisition codex.
I guessing all figures are usuable in all 3 branches of the inquisition but with loads of 'prefered enemy' option/rules.
a major rewrite of the assassin rules so the 5th edition rule ties in perfectly. I have a lot of conflicts using my Evasor assassin.
more Vehicle options I would really like to see a inquisition drop pod
ZitatAlles anzeigen30-01-2010
5x Seraphim Squad : Gone from GW webshops except US, Canadian and Australian
10x Sister Repentia : Gone from GW webshops except US, Canadian and Australian
Called GW : Was told they are now discontinued and they wont be restocking them.
10x Sisters of Battle box is gone from Australian webshop.
DH and WH codexes are gone from USA, Canada and Australian webshop.
10x Sister of Battle box was gone from the US webshop but is now back and on sale.
08-01-2010
Deamon Hunter Codex : Gone from GW webshops except US, Canadian and Australian
Witch Hunter Codex : Gone from GW webshops except US, Canadian and Australian
10x Sisters of Battle box : Gone from GW webshops except US, Canadian and Australian
ZitatAlles anzeigenOriginally Posted by NagashTheSorcerer View Post
Based on what I've heard from GW employees (some of them pretty high up and well connected) and other gamers, as well as 40k's own history, I have a few theories about the future of the Inquisition.
First and foremost, I'm fairly certain that the Sisters of Battle will be getting their own codex, without Inquisitors or Assassins. Alot of long time Sister players we resentful that the SoB were relegated to the position of a Chamber Militant of the Inquisition to begin with, something I've heard from GW employees that the company has even acknowledged. Fluff wise, yeah, Sororitas may work with the Ordos, they may even have formalized their partnership with the O. Hereticus in the Convocation of Nephilim, but technically, they're still part of the Ecclesiarchy, not the Inquisition. In all probability, SoB will get their own codex, taking with them the other Ecclesiarchy units like the Priests, Arco-Flagellants and Penitant Engines. The new codex may even resurrect old Ecclesiarchy units like the Frateris Militia, Zealots, Confessors and/or Missionaries (that's pure conjecture, btw, but it seems possible)
So where does that leave the Inquisition?
As far as the Inquisitors and their Henchmen go themselves go, I'm pretty certain GW will condense Inquisitors from all Ordos into one book, and represent the difference between them in the options you take, rather then making them separate unit entries in and of themselves. Assassins will probably go wherever the Inquisitors go, for lack of a better book to put them in; Daemonhosts and the Inquisitorial Stormtroopers will obviously do the same. Deathwatch is the big mystery here, since I haven't heard anything about what GW intends to do with them (if anything). My guess is that if there is anything new with DW in an upcoming Codex, it will probably be similar to the Kill-Teams we already have. And for the Adeptus Arbites....... I'm sorry to any Arbie fans out there, but since the last new 40k scale AA minis were made for Necromunda over a decade ago, I wouldn't hold my breath for much more then what we already have: Stormtroopers with shotguns (Would be cool to see new cyber-mastiffs, but I wouldn't count on it.)
Grey Knights are the 600 lb gorilla in the corner, since they are rather popular, and how they are developed could have a huge effect on what a Codex: Inquisition could look like. Personally, I think GW will keep the GK with the Inquisitors (It's even stated in the fluff going as far back as the Realm of Chaos books from '87 that the GK were created specifically for the Inquisition). There seems to be a small possibility that there could be a Codex: Grey Knights, but with the GK being an actual part of the Ordos, unlike the SoB (the GK Chapter Master is even a member of the Inquisitorial Council, I believe) it seems unlikely they will be separated from the Inquisition. If there is to be a Codex: Grey Knights, then whatever is in the Inquisitor book may remain available as allies for other Imperial armies (a la Heros of the Imperium from 2nd and 3rd edition), since Inquisitors, Assassins, Stormtroopers, Daemonhosts and DK kill-teams don't really make a good army on their own. Either way, I'm sure we'll get some new Grey Knight units to fill out their army list
For me, the big question is weather or not the Allies system will continue. Certainly not with the SoB, but given the nature of the Inquisition, it may be possible that Inquisitors, GK, Assassins and others may be available as allies in other Imperial armies. While I am aware that GW is moving away from allowing armies to cross over (outside of Apocalypse), historically, Inquisitors, GK and Assassins have always been available as allies in other Imperial armies, from 2nd edition onward, and they may be an exception to the current trend. (note: that is just my opinion, I have not heard or read anything substantial to corroborate or disprove that theory) However, I won't be too terribly surprised if they make the Inquisition an army unto itself, given said trend (although it would be odd if Daemonhosts and GK were in the same codex without the ability to take allies).
ZitatAlles anzeigen02/02/2010
Called Games Workshop to have some questions answered, figured Id ask them about whats up with Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters while I was at it. Was told they are planning a new Inquisition Codex release later this year which would combine the two Ordos. I asked if this meant both GK and SoB would be in the same codex and was answered "Im not sure but I would believe so".
To the question about when we might see the new codex I was told around the 2nd half of 2010 so the summer/autumn rumour seems to hold some truith but things change so until they give a definite date all we can do is hope.
The reason they are removing boxes from the site is because of the planned release, was told that when the molds get old they will discontinue the product instead of making new molds.
One can assume this is because they have made new models which have or will go into production soon to meet the expected demand of the new release.
Does this mean =][=, GK and SoB in a single codex or is there still hope for separate codexes? Only time will tell.
ZitatAlles anzeigenI got a few nice bits of info/rumours and various 'inquisition' codex's
Witch hunters and Daemon hunters are going to be combined to form an 'Inquisition' Codex and they are going to have 'Xeno hunters' added to it. Grey knights may get there own codex.
The new battle sisters have their molds ready and apparently has been ready for the last 3 years.
and should all be happening around June/July time.
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31/01/2010
Received a rumour release schedule for 2010. At the bottom it said "Grey Knights (not Inquisition)" for release, is this another hint at independent codexes or just someones wishlisting?
Dont take the schedule for granted, Im just compiling rumours I run accross or gets sent to me. Dont agree with it? Find me another one and I will compile, the more we add the better.
Well, it could become a complete mess but if different sites say similar things we can hope the info is somewhat reliable.
Zitatsince i was asked to keep it all in one thread. Much of the discussion yesterday revolved around DH/WH plans. And i mentioned in the other thread it could see light of day around Jan next year if it stays on track. Can't see it happening any earlier, but could happen mid-2011.
Also looks like there will be another Mystery Box style campaign later this year. But I honestly don't know what it will be...I asked about Warhammer Quest, and was told specifically that license is with someone else now. (hopefully FFG) So yall's guess is as good as mine.
ZitatAlles anzeigenSticky Monkey
-lots of psycannon vehicle upgrades
-GK Jetbikes possible
- Landspeeder variant possible, though Stickymonkey seemed unsure if
this made it to the final design stages
-GK Chaplain
Harry
-Artificer Armor instead of Power Armor is possible
Harry has mostly talked about when they're coming up, as has DPA.
Uther on GK forums
-Drop Pods (probably for Dreadnoughts) are in, with some sort of special
variant
-Stern is dead in the fluff
-NFWs can Insta-kill Daemons (corresponds with Beerfart's rumors)
-GKs have some sort of Apothecary, but may be a special Character"
ZitatAlles anzeigenSo there have been scant rumors on the Grey Knight front for several month
but some new stuff has been floating around today Here are the big ones:
Basics
January-March 2011 release window (Q1)
Said to be a Grey Knight only codex (no Sororitas)
Boxed Sets
Power Armor Grey Knights - 10 man
Grey Knight Terminators - 5 man
Some type of walker has been making the rumor rounds of late, dreadnought possibly
Storm Raven
Blisters
New Stern
Justicar upgrade IC
Paladin upgrade IC
New Inquisitor
Rules
Nemesis Force Weapons are said to be standardized now:
-Power armor users count as a power weapon that wounds daemons on a 2+
-Terminator users count as a force weapon with wounds daemons on a 2+
Most squads have anti psyker powers
Librarian Dreads with Grey Knight weapon options
Psycannon is said to be: 24" S:6 AP:3 with anti deamon/psyker abilities.
Allies are gone