Chaos Legionen Codex?

Von bello:

"The book should allow players to field
Legion-specific armies that have a uniqueness similar to older Dex's
whilst simultaneously allowing flexible mixed force builds.

HQ selections may change:

- what units
"count as" (possibly FOC slots, or scoring status)

- wargear upgrades for squads and vehicles

- access to Daemons

- unit sizes (maybe)

Many more flying options
in this book such as:

- Chosen with Jump Packs (expensive)

- Possessed
with Wings (kinda expensive)

- Chaos Assault Marines (average)

-
Raptors

Cult troops could possibly get access to Jump
Packs changing their FOC slot (maybe) but most most units are unable to move FOC slots.

Chosen and Possessed could get the
most significant overhaul in the codex. HQ characters
may be able to take a unit of Chosen as a squad upgrade, thereby not
taking up an Elites slot.

Possessed will lose their current "game costing randomness". Example given was Ogre
Kingdoms Maneaters, who pick abilities from a list before the game.
A particular character may allow one or more
units of Possessed to be taken as Troops.

Berserkers Rage rule to return
to a Ld test, suffering the Rage USR on a failure. He also said that 2
ideas for Chain Axes have been suggested: Rending, or +1S.

Alpha Legion may be able to grant Infiltration to their transports.

Lash of Submission nerfed to be inline with the version in Codex Chaos Daemons.

Sonic weapon options were tested for Dreadnoughts and Predators - including some heavier new sonic tankbusters.

Apocalypse sized releases for Chaos in the near future , an Autocannon-toting flyer was mentioned.

Finally word of the Havoc Launcher upgraded to two shots."

Von Warseer:

"...there may not be much focus on newer Chaos
Space Marine chapters, keeping things squarely on the original 9
Traitor Legions and their splinter factions. This means it's likely
there won't be much or any love for Huron.

Chaos may get a form of Preferred Enemy, but was unsure which units.

On Daemons, Daemon Princes could wind up being
the only "Marked" Daemonic creatures. What this means is unclear.
Could be he means there are no God-specicif Daemons, or that they are
there, just that they don't use "Marks".

Whilst on the subject of Daemon Princes, they will move more in line
with the ones in the Daemon Codex but "with a more Chaos Space Marine
feel", gong on to say they may gain specific benefits for different
Legions.

Terminators were a big topic, Chosen may not
have access to Terminator Armour (contradicting his previous rumour),
but that Cult Terminators would return in some form. He went on to say
he believed there would only be two Terminator units, claiming one
was some sort of "generic cult" unit that was given special rules
according to the Legion being played. He made sure to reinforce that
this was an early playtest, so things could have changed.

From Stickmonkey (Another reliable regular rumor poster)

...a plastic Chaos drop pod could be in the works, but tempered that
by saying we probably wouldn't see it any time soon. Whether the kit
is released soon or not, there could be a chance of the rules appearing
in the Codex though."

Von heresy-online neues & altes zusammengefasst:

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Predictions Section
Rumoured Release Schedule
Q2-Q3 First 6E codex, released just before 6E launch or first codex after launch

General Codex Information
Author: Phil Kelly or Matt Ward
State: Books is done and almost at the printers (Source Darnok), book is
done and should be leaving the printers shortly to be stored for
distribution (Source theDarkGeneral)
Other: Will be Hardcover
Legions said to be split into 3 books
-Rumours on the split are mixed at the moment. One says the split I have
below, the other that there will be a Legions, Renegades and Daemons
book which I find allot more plausible. Keeping the current setup just
in case and because it involves all the Legion info anyway

Legion Book Specific
Khorne Book
World Eaters (Khorne)
Marked Dreads
Daemon Engines
Khornate characters can nullify psychic abilities aimed at them
Get Bolters
Has to engage in some kind of combat every turn or suffer a random d6 penalty result
Can only have 1 Havoc squad, can take more by "trading in" something else
Having a Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts
"Gladiator Themed Unit" Must keep killing in order to stop a timer in
their heads from killing them, might be related to the d6 penalty
mentioned above

Word Bearers (Chaos Undivided)
Dark Apostles can be split off as squad leaders
Chaplains
Daemonancer (Unit champion)
Summoning Daemons from the Warp, allowed re-rolls to scatter and new mishap chart
Can take Marked units but with restrictions
Turn 1 Daemon Summoning
Can only have 1 Heavy Support choice but get other bonuses to offset this

Nightlords (Chaos Undivided)
Hit & Run
Stealth
Counter Attack (For Elite Units)
Jump Pack
Can only have 1 Heavy Support choice but get other bonuses to offset this
Raptors are Night Lords

Slaanesh and Nurgle Book
Emperor's Children (Slaanesh)

Lash changed to be more like Daemon version
More heavy weapons for larger units
Better bikes
Counter Charge
Higher Initiative
Chosen will be faster
d6 result said to be very harsh
Soul Shieldsman Unit, possibly an upgrade for Veterans
Sonic weaponry

Deathguard (Nurgle)
Feel No Pain and Blight Grenades for Terminators
Poisoned attacks ignore Armour Saves on a roll of a 6
Nurgle Flamers can be made poisoned 3+ or 2+ (possibly through a special character).
Plague Knives for Chosen/Possessed Poison 4+ Ignores Armour on 6s
Stoic special rule: Can't do sweeping advances

Iron Warriors (Chaos Undivided)
Terminators have access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
Iron-Fire Cannon (Thunder Fire Cannon)
Chaos Marine squads may take an additional heavy weapon once past 10 models
Siege Specialists: Tank Hunters and reduce Cover Saves on enemy units

Tzeentch Book
Thousand Sons (Tzeentch)

New Psychic Powers, one of which can remove an entire squad on a failed stat test
Mindless, need command figure or suffer a d6 result to guide their actions
Sorcerers get something similar to a Psychic Hood but called something else
Higher strength/lower Ap weapons

Alpha Legion (Chaos Undivided)
Infiltrate upgrade for much of army
Outflanking
Temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles
Might be able to re-roll scenario
Greatest access to Imperial style vehicles
May force enemies to take Ld tests before they move or shoot

Black Legion (Chaos Undivided)
HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rule
Greatest selection of units/vehicles

All Book Specific
Choice of HQ affects what types of units/marks available to your army
CSM Retain Bolter, Bolt Pistol & Close Combat weapon
New Heavy weapons, no Plasma Cannon
Chaos units have built in negatives depending on God

HQ
2-for-1 HQ choices that can be split off, similar to Haemonculi, Priests and Wolf Guard

Elite
Terminators
-Cult dedicated lists only

Chaos Dreadnought
-Remade into plastic
-No longer random
-Can take Marks
-Can't be Venerable
-Chainfist, Thunder Hammer, Power Scourge
-Said to be one in the 6E starter set

Possessed
-New Upgrades

Chosen
-More upgrade options
-Jump Packs
-Terminator Armour
-All types of Combi-Weapons
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Certain HQ choices may be able to take a Chosen squad as retinue

Legion Specific Mounts
Disc mounted Rubrics
Beast mounted Plague Marines
Seekers mounted Noise Marines
Brazen Knights
-Skull Champions riding on Juggernauts
-May be Apocalypse formation yet to be released

Troops
Scout Unit
-Not available to World Eaters

God specific Daemons
-Same as Daemons codex but slight points adjustments to reflect the ability to summon them and 6E changes

Rubric Marines (Thousand Sons)
-New psychic powers instead of weapon options
-More upgrades for unit and Sorcerer

Dedicated Transports

Fast Attack
Assault Marines
-Can be marked
-Berserkers with jump packs

Locust (No FOC slot rumour, put in FA for the time being)
-Small, fast, single seater Chaos Flyer which features heavily in the Sabbat World's Crusade
-Chaos equivalent of an Imperial Lightning.

Spawn
-Larger packs and able to take Marks

Raptors
-Remade into plastic
-Night Lords only

Bikers
-Nurgle Bikes, have Stoic rule so may not perform sweeping advances (Wouldn't this make them T6? Now that'd be annoying to kill)
-Attack Bikes or similar may be included

"Landspeeder"
-Something "sort of" like a Landspeeder may be available

Heavy Support
Slaughterfiends
-Different versions for Legions and Marks

Obliterators
-Maximum unit size increased to 4
-May take none energy-based weapons
-Remade in Plastic or Finecast

Daemon Engines
-3 per FOC slot
-Might be a Tzeentchian one

Landraiders
-New Legion specific LR with higher transport capacity (possibly 15)
-Described as a "warped version of one of the Imperial versions"
-Version of Power of the Machine Spirit

Havocs
-Marked Legions

Monstrous Creature
-Not Greater Daemon but can have Marks
-Not all Legions can take one, Night Lords and Alpha Legion can not

Predator
-More weapon options similar to Razorbacks
-Twin Linked Plasmagun turret with single Plasmagun sponsons

"Thunderfire Cannon"
-Legions may have access to a Daemonic weapons platform comparable to
the Thunderfire Cannon (Iron-fire Cannon mentioned in the Legions
section?)

Special Characters
Abbadon
-Eternal Warrior
Doomrider
-Unit upgrade, presumably for a Bike squad
Doombreed
Cypher
Horus Axiamand
Honsou
"Red Angel"
Huron
Unknown Raptor Lord (Night Lords?)
Kharn the Betrayer
-Eternal Warrior
-4+ Inv save
-"His bloodshed knows no bounds"
Ahriman
-Psychic power that can't be stopped with Psychic Hood
Typhus
-Eternal Warrior
Lucius the Eternal
Slaanesh Dreadnought
Iron Warrior character with servo harness

Model Releases, 4 Waves planned
Daemonancer model
Iron Warriors character with huge servo harness
Plastic Plaguebearers
Plastic Plaguemarines
Plastic Dreadnought
Obliterators remade in finecast or plastic
Plastic Raptors
Plastic Chaos Drop Pod
Plastic Locust
-Chaos Flier
New Plastic Chaos Bike kit (Rumoured Attack Bike?)
Legion specific heads and shoulder sprue
Power Armour and Terminator bits could be separate
Cult terminators have been sighted, but could be conversion or above mentioned kit
New Kharn the Betrayer
"Bulkier and still ferocious in motion"
Special Character box including:
Horus Axiamand
Honsou
Unknown Raptor Lord (Night Lords?)
Kharn the Betrayer
Ahriman
Typhus
Lucius the Eternal

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Neueste Gerüchte von Blood of Kittens

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The Chaos Space Marine codex is the only 40k codex for this year. It is not going to be divided into two codexes or anything special. This is not the return 3.5 codex everyone has been wanting this is more a clean up than anything else. With that said let us get started.
- Troops choices will be Chaos Space Marines and Cultists
- All Cult Marines are Elites
- No new Special Characters
- Special Characters will unlock Cult Marines as troops (Kharn for Berserkers and so on)
- Typhus makes Cultists into Zombies
- Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)
- CSM now get a Flyer a Mechanical Chaos Dragon (model is done will be part of initial release)
- Lesser and Greater Demons are gone
- Spawn replaced by “Fell Beast”

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zudem ebenfalls von BoK

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40k players will only get one codex this year and that is Chaos Space Marines– along with 6th edition of course.
So the time-table has changed and looks like this:
June-July 6th Edition
Sept-Oct Chaos Space Marines
Sprinkle in some flyers, buildings, and that is all you will see from the 40k front for the year.

In der Gerüchteküche rumort er weiter! Von BoLS:

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Chaos Marines
-The "flying dragon thingy" is coming. It is a flyer and one of two entirely new units added to the codex.
-The second new unit is said to be a Chaos answer to the Grey Knight Dreadknight.
-The Chaos Dreadnought is indeed still there (take a breath people), but gets a new name, and a rules overhaul.
-Hardcover book (just like Fantasy army books)

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Hi,
und wieder ein bißchen Mischmasch zwischen 6. Edition und neuen Chaos-Codex von von bell of lost souls:

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First up, various sources have identified Ahriman as being a psyker with Mastery Level:4 (eat that puny Grey Knights). More interestingly the Chaos codex is said to include a new vehicle stat named "Hull Points".

Rhinos have Hull Points:3, while bigger vehicles have more.

Grant from Faeit212 dropped in with these tasty morsels:

"On HullPoints: If a vehicle has 3 hull points it will die after 3 shaken results, but it can still explode after 1 shot as normal.

On Assault: All cc weapons have AP values in 6th similar to what was in the fake 6th ed rule book leak.
On the flying Dragon thingy: Imagine a dragon made of "fire" and coverd in a platemale armor and you won't be too far off. That is the best discription I can give. Some of the concept art shows it mauling a valkyrie mid flight. It is pretty cool.
But I've said too much! "

Perhaps the biggest item is a general consensus that 6th Edition is coming "VERY soon"...

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Quelle:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net…mors-6th-and-csm-pt2.html

Die Gerüchteküche kocht nun fast täglich:

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Bell of Lost Souls
Codex author is Phil Kelly.
Chaos Cultists are available in blob squads into the thirties...
Certain Named Characters grant various USRs and other special rules to Cultists when selected.

Von 40kings eine Zusammenfassung der neuesten Gerüchte:

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Das Starterset für die sechste Edition wurde bereits gesichtet und die beiden konkurrierenden Fraktionen sind mit Dark Angels und Chaos Space Marines auch bereits klar. Ebenso steht fest, dass die CSM viele neue Spielzeuge erhalten werden, unter anderem kann man bereits einen Blick auf die Statline der Chaos Kultisten werfen und wer das neue Regelbuch aufmerksam studiert hat, dem ist sicher schon der neue Chaos Cybot aufgefallen.

Die letzten interessanten, weil glaubwürdigen, Gerüchte zu den Regeln und weiteren Inhalten des CSM Codex liegen aber schon eine ganze Weile zurück. Kein Wunder, angesichts der Tatsache, dass die Flutwelle der sechsten Edition fast alle anderen Themen hinfortgespült hat. Mittlerweile haben sich die Jäger und Sammler der Bloggosphäre aber etwas berappelt und richten ihren Blick fest auf the next big thing. Ohne Euch mit (unwichtigen) Details langweilen zu wollen, kristallisiert sich zunehmend ein Release des CSM Buches (man muss Buch sagen, weil es ein Hardcover haben wird…) am 1. September heraus. An diesem ersten September ist von GW übrigens auch schon ein Chaos Space Marines Terminator Masterclass Bemalworkshop angekündigt worden. Zufall? Sollte sich ein Release am 1. September bestätigen (siehe weiter unten), dann werden wir mit Sicherheit in den nächsten zwei Wochen deutlich mehr Details aus dem Äther ziehen können bis hin zu WD-Preview Bildern dann wohl Mitte August.

Neben den üblich verdächtigen Gerüchteköchen hat sich nun aber auch Neil von Skcuzzlebumms Skcuttlebutt gemeldet, den ich persönlich schon lange kenne und der schon vor Jahren mit exellenten Informationen über zukünftige Releases aufwarten konnte. Seine Nähe zu GW und der Mutterinsel sind da sicher Vorteile. Im folgenden findet ihr das Material, das Neil zusammengetragen hat.

Release date – 1st September (7 weeks he said) and it is a hard back like the 8e WFB Army Books.
There is an Eye of the Gods esque table (Warriors of Chaos players will know what I am talking about) that you get to roll on whenever a character kills another character in a challenge, or a Walker or Monstrous Creature. There is a multitude of gifts (and curses) that your Characters can acquire which range from +1 Save, +1 Toughness, or becoming either a Spawn or a Daemon Prince!!!
Chaos Cultists are definetely in (but we all kinda know that already), as is the ‘Dragon’ – think Necron Night Scythe with the main chassis been replaced by a massive mechanical dragon head with segmented wings sweeping forward and around from it. On top of those there are also:
Dark Apostles – evil Chaplains basically
Warp Smiths – evil Techmarine that can curse vehicles and degrade terrain.
A new Daemon Engine – half way between a Dreadnought and a Defiler.
Speaking of Defilers as they are Daemons they have a 5+ Inv save.
‘Cult’ units are all Elites and are unlocked to Troops by appropriate HQ choices, but there are no Cult Terminators which makes me sad.
Obliterators are exclusively for shooting – so no powerfists. BUT there is a new unit which is basically a close combat Obliterator.
There are 2 types of Raptors now; regular CSM with Jump Packs, and then some kind of Possessed Daemonic Raptors that all come with Lightning Claws!
Possessed are meant to be amazing, and take a lot of benefits from the Eye of the Gods esque table.
There are NO Daemons in the Codex because that is what Allies are for.
That is all I can remember for now. Sorry I am VERY tired. But regardless I have to say I am excited to see the Codex in the flesh and get cracking on some themed lists with Allied Daemons or Guard (for a proper Lost and the Damned army).

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http://www.40kings.de/2012/07/…d-release-am-1-september/

Hi,
laut Gerüchten von warseer soll sich der Chaos Space Marine Codex bis Oktober verschieben.
im August WD soll jedenfalls Updates für die Dämonen drin sein.
Und da im September die Startersbox kommen soll, bleibt nur der Oktober.

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I can confirm for you all that codex Chaos Space Marines will be released in October at the earliest.
The White Dwarf features Daemons. Lots of them but no Chaos Marines. The month after is the 40k starter box so that means no codex until October. I'm a bit bummed out by this but I suppose it gives me longer to save up.
However the boxed game sounds like it's going to be pretty sweet so perhaps I won't actually have any money left.

Quelle:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/…0923-2012-releases/page80