• http://www.belloflostsouls.net…tworld-eldar-murmurs.html

  • Von Warseer:


    "Warlock rumored to be a fine cast model with 2 head optiosn, 2 right arm/hand options and 2 left arm/hand options.




    Guardian box will eliminate hw platform, but guardians themselves to
    stay same, add new hw sprue and storm guardian sprue. Rumor is the
    "storm" guardians will not be a separate entry in next codex, but just a
    guardian upgrade. But don't take much from it yet, my rule rumor hit
    ratio is absolute rubbish.




    Two of the new models are to be at the new "high end" price point. I suspect the bomber and heavy tank would be these two.




    The "bastion/drop pod" I had a second confirmation on, description is a
    little more plausible this go. Is deployed pre game like a infiltrator.
    It is a deployment point for reserves. But 1 unit selected before the
    game can arrive turn one. Holds 1 hw on turret. Armor 11 all around.
    Grants +1 to cover saves of guardians when "garrisoned". Again, please
    assume this is completely filled with salt, I'm passing along what I was
    told, and it's a second source. But it's rules, and I haven't seen any
    design work to support.




    Spears most definitely getting new models to go w new jet bikes.




    Some concept sketches of vyper have it similar to hornet with weapons platform along side turret. Flatter and sleeker."


    Ein anderer User "Daemon" bestätigt oder verneint das ein oder andere, fügt an: Neue Waffenoption für Phantomdroiden.

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  • Neue Gerüchte von Ghost21 (Warseer):


    "plastic vampyre,
    solitare,
    dragon riders,
    possibly exodite character
    and 2 additional aspect warrior types"


    Keine Shadowspectres.

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  • Ghost 21 Warseer:


    "Guardians will have other options that's all I will add to that


    You won't need to take a support platform to make them useful"

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    wel thats exactly why, i could have said , lasblasters were listed as an option but then if they came out n didnt have that option... well you can guess


    all ill say is that shurikens wont be so bad, they will have other options, and yes i saw guardians listed with lasblasters but it could be changed


    id honestly expect new figures for the older figures, ive even heard jain zar will get an epic model


    http://www.warseer.com/forums/…read.php?t=326025&page=12

  • BOS:
    Rumors: when it rains, it pours... Here's the latest word on the Craftworlders:




    Via Stickmonkey


    I have some very early Eldar rumors. First let me start with a very clear disclaimer:


    THESE ARE EARLY RUMORS, CODEX ELDAR IS RUMORED MID TO LATE 2013! I EXPECT MUCH OF THIS TO CHANGE OR EVOLVE FROM WHAT I AM HEARING TODAY!


    Ok, very small list, so on to what Im hearing:


    Aspects all have a way to move to troops. However, some are limited to one unit only. The phoenix Lords are NOT this mechanism supposedly.


    Guardians have a slight points reduction.


    Tanks ( night spinner, fire prism, falcon) have a point reduction.


    Transports are about the same cost.


    Storm guardians are an upgrade of normal guardians.


    Rumor those units requiring a guide (wraithguard , wraithlord) longer sit idle when out side range and rolling a 1. Instead they can make a move towards a warlock or other guide. Engaging these units in cc while they are outside their guides range will have penalties, treat as ws 1, i 1. However, guides will have "buffs" they can give. Reroll to hit, bonus save, etc. (To me this sounds suspiciously like changes to nids and the tervigon)


    via Romanus (note:A little extra salt here)


    heard that they have played with Wave serpents Energy Shields becoming weaker, in that they loose there negative effects against melta etc. Still these are playtesting rumors at this stage so subject to a huge variable of change.


    From what I have heard and from other sources around the interwebs the first wave for Eldar would look like:


    Flyer - Possibly with 2nd wave flyer release (supposedly related to the large vehicle chassis), I have also heard it is the Nightwing but this would contradict what GW has been saying lately that there wouldn't be anymore direct ports from FW


    New Plastic Jetbikes (seen Games Day 2010)
    New Plastic Vyper
    Larger Vehicle Chassis
    Guardian Box incorporating Storm and Battle guardians???
    Finecast characters


    I know that Eldar are being worked on at the moment, but its mostly throwing around Ideas and seeing how they work. I'm not 100% sure on the design sequence that GW follows but this would seem pretty prelim to me. I know that this has been going on for around six months so far, with some pretty nifty ideas being tried. Thats all I'll say on the matter though


    Eldargal jumps in to say:


    New Avatar sculpt
    New Falcon variants
    Entirely new vehicle
    New jetbikes and vyper jetbike models
    New character sculpts, new special character(s) and new SC sculpts
    New versions of Aspect warriors, similar to current models but 'more dynamic'


    -That's a lot to drop in a short time. Craftworld Eldar are said to be after Tau Empire in 2013. Full details in the BoLS Lounge thread here.

  • "


    Just found the following in the 3++ is the new black forum, posted by Kirby:




    Been informed there are some Eldar boxes floating around warehouses.
    How long they get sat on before a codex is released though, who knows.
    I'm going to guess around a year off. We know CSM are next and then
    Dark Angels with the Hobbit crashing into scenes December, that could
    push DA back to early 2013. So mid 2013 is the likely bet for Eldar is
    something doesn't shove them out of the way.




    Here's what I've been told re: boxes. No rules.




    plastic Warpspiders/Everguard


    plastic Skycharriots/Shining Spears


    plastic Phantomwaechter - these might be the shadow spectres?


    plastic Jetbikes


    plastic Wraithguard/Cataphracts


    plastic flyer combi-kit - The flyer is pretty large and has a crossbow
    shape, two canopies, one fin. The main variant on the cover has some
    lances and a large dorsal distort cannon. The other variant has extra
    downward/sideway thrusters, but I don’t remember if it has a different
    weapon loadout.


    plastic phoenix lord niadhau - For Shining Spears, appears to be on a Vyper jetbike.


    plastic webway gate


    resin box Avatar


    resin Black Warden - The Black Warden looks like an female Autarch. She
    has a shurikencatapult and a feathered guardian helm with an eye on
    it.


    resin Dire Avenger Xentarch - Appears to be a new English name for Exarch?


    resin Howling Banshee Xentarch


    resin Fire Dragon Xentarch


    resin Striking Scorpion Xentarch


    resin box Dragon Riders


    resin box Eldritch Raiders - They look like guardians but have no helms
    and wear scarfs around the lower head and swashbuckle belts. They are
    very individually equipped, have all sorts blades, pistols and/or
    rifles. (potentially Storm Guardians?)


    resin box Halcones Cazadores


    resin Warlock




    Have at it!








    Phantomwächter is German and means Wraithguardian (note, that Wraith
    guards are called Phantomdroiden in German, aka Wraith droids)


    Halcones Cazadores is Spanish for Swooping Hawks




    Take it with a mountain of salt as Kirby hasn't posted it on his main page."

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  • Von Bols:


    "Okay guys, got some extra details on the earlier Eldar rumors,
    specifically artwork and what everything looks like. Still no rules.
    Looks like the Xentarchs are indeed Exarchs, whether they are special
    Exarch's or just new remodelling is to be seen. We've also got names
    nailed down a bit more from translations.




    With the recent release of the end of this year's schedule looking like
    Chaos and Dark Angels getting done, we might see Eldar landing early Q1
    2013. This would be very much appreciated. Depending who writes it!






    Anyway, details below!




    Eldar Warpspiders/Everguard


    5 per box




    Spiders: whole squad looks like the old exarch, no huge weapon, helmets
    smaller, but same shape, wrist blades, two small spinner weapons on rod
    mount from the back. Spider web like straps on the chest that hold the
    backpack (doesn’t look as broad as the old version), running, jumping
    and slightly cowering poses, exarch has extra pair of weapons on the
    cover, don’t remember the back pictures




    Everguard: aspect warrior body with runes on the chest, same collar as
    warpspiders but no mandible arcs and gas masks, different more
    warlock-like face plate and small arc at back of the head, double bladed
    two-handed spears, very dynamic models, jets from the side/underside of
    the backpack, squad leader has larger head-arc, mantle hangs over the
    backpack, flies in the wind




    Eldar Sky Charriots/Shining Spears




    3 per box, look like small vypers, slightly larger than jetbikes. Two
    parts: an engine part with jetbike-like canopy but in the shape of a
    dragon, owl and hawk head, sideway jets, and a distinct winged chariot
    part, parts are connected by arcs.




    Riders either warlocks but arms are not robed, spear, sword and staff;
    or shining spear aspect warriors with lances, shining spears have smooth
    canopies with gems instead animal heads, helms look very cylon-like,
    have collar-like shoulderguards




    Eldar Jetbikes




    3 per box, the same pose as dark eldar jetbike, guardian riders with
    smaller helmets or bareheaded with lots of flying hair (80s heavy metal
    mane) and without backpack, vyper-esque smooth canopy, jet and wings
    have the same design as a falcon grav tank, underslung twin shuriken
    catapults and/or serpent-shaped bladehooks, some riders have axes with a
    hole in the blade




    Eldar Dragon Riders




    3 per box, very slender lizard mounts not unlike slaanesh steeds, all
    female rider, no helmets, long braids, guardian armor without backpack,
    all have shining spear lances, sabres and/or sniper rifles as sidearms,
    the armor has no decoration, not even gems or small bubbles, only
    exception is a gem that holds a cloak that falls to the left side of the
    rider, very simplistic look, not aztec or tribal at all




    Eldar Wraithguard/Cataphracts




    3 per box, look like old versions but have two rods for upper arms and
    thighs instead of just one, some have feet, some hooves, large fins at
    the back




    Cataphracts: float/fly, fluttering cloth pieces instead of legs, wing-shaped shields and spears, segmented/armored head




    Eldar Swooping Hawks




    5 per box, larger wings, not so stiff and two-dimensional, several
    straps of clothes from the loin, wrists and ankles, model stand on these
    straps, both shoulder plates have inbuilt missile racks, Exarch has two
    shoulder-mounted blasters and a scimitar in one hand and two optional
    rifles, one is the same as the old exarch had, the other is a small star
    cannon




    The Avatar of the Young King




    Completely new design, much smaller, only as large as a wraithguard, set
    of aspect armour where every piece is spread out and connected by a
    body of magma, looks like an fire/earth elemental clad in a suit of
    armour, dire avenger helm with fire from the eyes and half burnt helm
    crest, floats and torso pose looks like vader during his Noooo scream,
    hands are armored, blood is dripping from the left, the right is molten
    and transformed into a blade




    Eldar Warlock




    fits the current warlocks but sharper robe edges, hadouken pose but with staff in two hands




    Eldar Spirit Warrior




    wraithlord-war walker mix, trygon base, running bird legs with hooves,
    huge scaled torso, a dozen poles extend from the back (like wraithlord
    but three times as much), left forearm replaced with massive lance,
    right hand holds extra handle on lance shaft or a three pronged swastika
    blade. Lower back, left shoulder and part of the left arm are concealed
    by an impressive cloak, head is surrounded by scaled armour plating,
    large gem at the front, doesn’t bend upward towards the end but
    downward, whole model leans forward, chest can be opened, female pilot
    inside




    Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart




    nuadhua holds lance upright, one end on the ground, points with axe on
    something, shining spear helm with tail of hair, layered armour like
    dark eldar-armour but with smooth curves, can be placed on
    vyper-variant, looks very similar to a vyper, canopy more segmented and
    wings in falcon-style, one large jet engine, chariot platform on the
    back, two large pennants




    Eldar Webway Gate




    Two arcs that almost touch each other at the top, whole construct has
    hazelnut shape, pyramidal platform with oval basis, several destroyed
    columns, front columns are intact and carry swooping hawk and dark
    reaper statues, whole model is covered with thorn-twines (seems to be
    optional)




    Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch




    holds two handed samurai sword downwards, two wrist-mounted shuriken
    catapults, banner, 99% that the phoenix on it is modeled on, one foot
    stands on a rock with an owl next to it, all armour plates are bedecked
    with a rune pattern, don’t know if this is only painted on




    Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch




    golfer pose, bends forwards and slashs upwards with a sabre, stretches
    other arm straight into the air, holds tri-swatiska, has snakes woven
    into her hair




    Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch




    jumps forwards, holds two short but thick chainswords in front, back of
    armour has backbone-like element that looks like a scorpion tail,
    continued on the helmet and ends in a sting, stands on ornamented plate
    with roots on it




    Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch




    knees almost, holds very long pike with two hands ready to fire, huge
    cluster of grenades on his back and his belt, helm ends in a dragon head




    Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber & Eldar Black Warden




    already described"

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  • Von BOLS:


    "The Dark Reaper Exarch regains a classic weapon option from the days of yore. HINT, HINT - it involves skulls and chain.




    Aspect Warriors are moving to plastic using the "combo-unit" dual-build
    format GW has moved to of late. We'll leave it up to you to guess which
    aspects could be paired off into combo-kit boxes with differing
    heads/weapon options.




    The new Eldar flyer is quite curved in nature, with sweeping lines all about. A real head turner.




    The new Eldar "big kit" is a wraith construct that shares numerous
    design cues with the current War Walker - but much larger. A virtual
    beast...




    Eldar keep their distance from Tau from an overall design theme. They
    will be the masters of maneuver and outright speed. Look for multiple
    options and units types for jetbikes including up-armored and even
    faster versions. Jetbikes as a family may well become the staple
    hallmark of the army. They will come in multiple flavors with both
    anti-personnel and anti-armor types.




    FOC wise, look for a whole lot of jumping about of units between the
    HEAVY SUPPORT, FAST ATTACK, and ELITES slots. There will be difficult
    player decisions to be made in there.


    "



    Zusätzlich redet "Hastings" auf Warseer von einer Avatareinheit.

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  • ich bin gespannt. insgesamt ne ganz nette geschichte und plastik modelle ziehe ich den failcast minis deutlich vor (auch wenn ich nach wie vor die zinn minis am coolsten finde xD)


    geschwindigkeit nunja finde ich passend bin auch die umsetzung gespannt. das grosse phantomkonstrukt war fast klar, und auf die flieger bin ich sowieso gespannt.


    was mit bis dato noch nicht gefällt ist, dass man rein gar nicht über psi erfährt... immerhin ist das sogar vor geschwindigkeit ein punkt der eldar.

  • Vielleicht wird der Tod, bzw. das Verschwinden Eldrads nun im Hintergrund als
    Teil des (erneuten?) Niedergangs der Eldar zelebriert was sich wiederum in der
    Schwächung der pionischen Fähigkeiten aller Eldar mnifestiert?


    Für mich hören sich die Gerüchte so an dass sich die Eldar nun mehr an den Waldelfen
    orientieren. Liest man den aktuellen Necron Codex erkennt man so langsam ein Muster. :D

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    show them that there can be something far more
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  • Eldrad ist nur einer von vielen Runenpropheten, das psionische Potential ist davon sicher nicht berührt..

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  • so ist es.
    naja abwarten wohin der fluff geht. immerhin hat er sich mit dem letzten dex nicht gerade verbessert xD


    aber wenn so auf geschwindigkeit gesetzt werden soll, mit 2 typen an jetbkies, kann ich mir nicht vorstellen dass der jetbike rat rausfällt. bin gespannt obs dann mal minis dafür gibt...

  • Von Warseer:


    "I have some news for you (and 40k players).


    There will be something in the codex called a wraithknight (almost as big as a phantom titan) and a psyker flyer.


    Striking Scopion will be a must have!"


    Psyker Flyer - Muhahaa!

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  • Skorpione gut trifft sich da hab ich reichlich von rumliegen!


    Psyker Flyer klingt krank aber witzig, solange die richtigen Sprüche dazukommen ... Biomantie wäre ja als Auto z.B. kaum nutzbar ...


    Das mit dem Phantom Titan kapier ich nicht, die werden etwas in Sturmflut/Dreadknight grösse drinhaben aber doch keinen Titanen? Das entwertet irgendwie die anderen Infos die gut klingen :(

    Neun von zehn Stimmen in meinem Kopf sagen ich bin nicht irre! Eine summt...
    Stelle dem Eldar keine Frage, denn er wird dir drei Antworten geben, von denen jede wahr und entsetzlich ist. Inquisitor Czevak
    Man wants to be the king o' the rabbits, he best wear a pair o' floppy ears.


  • Naja Knights sind eigentlich ziemlicher "Urfluff" im 40k Universe, ist ne kleinere Art Titan, also auch kleiner als ein Scouttitan etc. Wrathknight ist dann wohl die Eldarvariante. Dürfte ein ziemlicher Brocken sein, vielleicht ähnlich hoch wie ein Mono..


    Lexicanum hat dieses Uraltbild von nem Eldar Knight

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  • Er schrieb in der gösse eines Phantom Titans, und das ist der grosse von Forgeworld in Reaverformat ....


    Knights kenn ich, das steht da in den Klammern aber nicht drin.

    Neun von zehn Stimmen in meinem Kopf sagen ich bin nicht irre! Eine summt...
    Stelle dem Eldar keine Frage, denn er wird dir drei Antworten geben, von denen jede wahr und entsetzlich ist. Inquisitor Czevak
    Man wants to be the king o' the rabbits, he best wear a pair o' floppy ears.


  • Ach, das is Blödsinn. Ich glaube ja eher an den Wraithseer.

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  • Er schrieb in der gösse eines Phantom Titans, und das ist der grosse von Forgeworld in Reaverformat ....


    Knights kenn ich, das steht da in den Klammern aber nicht drin.


    Er schrieb "Wrathknight. Deshalb wirds wohl ein Knight sein (was vom Modell auch noch Sinn machen würde). Ein Phantomtitan wirds nicht.. ich tippe hier eher auf Unwissenheit des Zitierten, immerhin fühlt er sich sogar bemüßigt zu erklären was ein Knight ist..

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